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The Opportunities and Risks of AI in Cybersecurity

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Episode Summary

In this episode of Behind the Growth, Dr. Brian Gardner, Interim CIO for the City of Dallas, discusses cybersecurity and the unique challenges of managing a diverse IT department in the public sector. Drawing from his transition from forensic accounting to IT leadership with host Imran Mian, he details his passion for information security and public service, highlighting the importance of balancing cybersecurity, digital transformation, and AI initiatives within limited budgets.

Dr. Gardner shares examples of several successful innovation projects, including implementing a software-defined wide area network and city-wide multi-factor authentication. He emphasizes the need to reduce technical debt to free up resources for innovation. He further discusses the influence of AI on cybersecurity strategies, noting both the opportunities and risks it presents.

Discussing his involvement with the Coalition of City CISOs, he emphasizes the value of collaboration in this space. He also shares his personal experience of fostering children and how it has shaped his leadership perspective. Finally, he offers advice for aspiring IT leaders, cybersecurity professionals, and those considering public service.

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  • Name: Brian Gardner, Ph.D.
  • What he does: Interim CIO
  • Company: City of Dallas
  • Noteworthy: Dr. Brian Gardner is the Interim Chief Information Officer for the City of Dallas. Dr. Brian joined the city in 2017 to develop IT Risk Management and Regulatory Compliance programs. Since taking on the role, he has implemented a risk-based framework for cybersecurity strategy to assess and mature the City’s security capabilities, assure regulatory compliance, and mitigate enterprise-wide technology and business risk. In addition, implementing the City’s first Cyber Fusion Center and Security Operation Center.

    Dr. Brian’s cybersecurity industry experience extends from global financial services, national healthcare services, and Big Four consulting before entering public service. Dr. Brian holds a Bachelor’s degree in Forensic Accounting, a Master’s in Information Security Management, and a PhD in Information Technology, Security and Assurance. As well as research and publication on Disaster Recovery, Dr. Brian holds certifications in Cloud Security and Privacy.

    He is a founding member of the Coalition of City CISOs. The group is dedicated to bringing municipal leaders and cybersecurity professionals together to advance municipal cybersecurity.

    Dr. Brian and his family reside in the DFW area with their six children. He and his wife actively foster children from the region in hopes to provide them a better start. Over the past seven years they have fostered over 20 kids of all ages from infant to teenagers. In addition, Dr. Brian helps with the Dallas ISD P-TECH program and actively assists with guidance for students around the IT Security field.

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The Balancing Act of Municipal IT
Managing IT in the public sector presents a unique set of challenges. Unlike private organizations focused on a single mission, city governments must cater to diverse departments with vastly different needs. This requires a delicate balancing act, prioritizing projects, allocating limited resources, and ensuring all departments receive adequate support. As Brian Gardner notes, IT is fundamentally the same in public and private sectors, but the breadth of services in a city environment adds significant complexity. Innovation becomes crucial for streamlining operations, reducing technical debt, and freeing up resources for future initiatives. Finding this balance is essential for providing effective services to residents and ensuring the city’s smooth operation.

AI: A Double-Edged Sword
Artificial intelligence presents both immense opportunities and significant risks in cybersecurity. While AI can enhance security systems, analyze threats, and improve response times, it also empowers malicious actors. The rise of sophisticated phishing attacks, AI-generated malicious code, and data poisoning pose growing threats to organizations. Leaders must recognize AI’s dual nature and proactively develop strategies to mitigate the risks. This includes investing in AI-powered security tools, fostering collaboration to share threat intelligence, and staying ahead of emerging attack vectors. The future of cybersecurity hinges on harnessing AI’s power while effectively addressing its potential dangers.

The Power of Collaboration and Mentorship
Collaboration and mentorship are vital for navigating the complex landscape of cybersecurity. Sharing knowledge, experiences, and best practices helps organizations stay ahead of evolving threats. Brian Gardner’s involvement in the Coalition of City CISOs highlights the benefits of such collaboration. This network provides a platform for CISOs to connect, share insights, and support each other in addressing common challenges. Mentorship also plays a crucial role in developing the next generation of cybersecurity professionals. By sharing expertise and providing guidance, experienced leaders can empower aspiring professionals and ensure a strong future for the field. The collective knowledge gained through collaboration and mentorship strengthens the overall cybersecurity posture of organizations and the wider community.

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Episode Highlights

From Forensic Accounting to Public Service

Dr. Gardner’s career path took an unexpected turn from forensic accounting to information security after a pivotal course sparked his interest. His journey led him through consulting, healthcare, banking, and finally to the City of Dallas. Initially focused on healthcare initiatives, he was appointed Chief Information Security Officer and eventually Interim CIO. This diverse experience provided him with a unique perspective on the challenges and rewards of public service. His story highlights the importance of embracing new opportunities and the unexpected turns a career can take.

“My undergrad, I really started in forensic accounting. I learned that was not my niche. One of the very first courses that I took in my undergrad was information security, and I had an amazing professor. It was an amazing course. It was so outside of the box thinking; it really drew me to information security.”

Managing Budget Constraints and Driving Innovation

One of the biggest challenges in the public sector is balancing limited budgets with the need for innovation. Dr. Gardner discusses how cities can achieve this by reducing technical debt and focusing on initiatives that offer both cost savings and improved services for residents. He emphasizes the importance of prioritizing projects that address critical needs while streamlining operations and freeing up resources for future innovation. This approach allows cities to modernize their IT infrastructure while delivering tangible benefits to the community.

“The challenge is, how can we take what funds we have, carve where it makes the most sense, and be able to reduce the old technical debt and bring on that innovation?”

Cybersecurity and AI

AI presents both opportunities and challenges for cybersecurity. While AI can enhance security measures and help analysts identify threats faster, it also empowers malicious actors. Dr. Gardner discusses the need for a proactive approach to cybersecurity, utilizing AI tools to combat threats like sophisticated phishing attacks and AI-generated malicious code. He highlights the importance of staying ahead of the curve and viewing cybersecurity as a continuous chess match.

“AI itself is a tool, like every other tool. But those tools are not only a benefit to us, they’re also a detriment to us. So the bad guys are going to use it, making it more challenging for us, and they already are.”

Leadership and Compassion

Dr. Gardner’s experience fostering over 20 children has deeply influenced his leadership style. He shares how this personal journey has provided him with valuable insights into the struggles faced by many residents and fostered a sense of compassion. This understanding allows him to approach his work with greater empathy and a deeper appreciation for the human impact of his decisions. He also offers advice for aspiring leaders in IT, cybersecurity, and public service, emphasizing the importance of having a plan, embracing collaboration, and finding fulfillment in serving others.

“What it has given me is some perspective on the world in the public sector. Getting involved in it, I think, gives me insight into what some of the struggles that residents have in poverty and substance abuse, and those kinds of things that I wouldn’t have had. I would have probably gone through life without knowing they’re there, but never really touching them.”

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